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Holy cow! okay. so let's find the group of people. okay? the people that believe -- it's cloward and piven. i don't need to explain this. the deficit for april came out and it's $82 billion, that's four times more than the april deficit one year ago and two times more than what they projected in worst case scenarios. cloward and piven. this is another way to collapse a system. fundamentally transform it. if your system understands wealth wealth and the free market, you stop the free market and take away the wealth. if you do that, you better do it quickly and you better hope that somebody does...

>> we do it every day, believe me. this is how you finance that kind of debt. $82 billion. we're coming up as a shortfall each year. so we need to figure out how we're going to get that money and we do it via treasury auctions and for example there was a treasury auction that happened today, $16 billion worth of treasuries were sold on the open market. these are 30-year notes and what we found was that the yields went up slightly which meant it's slightly more expensive right now for the u.s. to borrow money than it was say last week. so it's small, an incremental increase, but when you look o...

We saw $82 billion deficit in april of this year. when is four times the deficit it was in april 2009 and cbo updated on the health care, now way above the trillion dollars and people told us it would be less than a trillion. to come up with serious ideas about cutting is essential. i think both parties will have to agree to this sooner or later. >> everybody agrees, james, there has to be massive cuts. the u.s. can't go on like this. >> i agree. i taught a class on a deficit. i think this is a good idea. no republican president ever had an idea on how to cut the budget. look at the budget und...

History of voting for plenty of things that aren't paid for. in 2005, for example, mr. coburn had no problem voting in favor of an emergency war separate mental by that directed $82 billion unpaid for dollars toward the ongoing wars in iraq and afghanistan. perhaps sensing the hypocrisy in that, senator coburn has more recently tried to explain away that vote by saying, well, he was new to the senate then at that time. >> well, that was, i think it was the first year i was here. but go look at who hadn't. i've not voted for one since, because it wasn't paid for. >> i've not voted for one since...

Had no problem voting in favor of an emergency war separate mental by that directed $82 billion unpaid for dollars toward the ongoing wars in iraq and afghanistan. perhaps sensing the hypocrisy in that, senator coburn has more recently tried to explain away that vote by saying, well, he was new to the senate then at that time. >> well, that was, i think it was the first year i was here. but go look at who hadn't. i've not voted for one since, because it wasn't paid for. >> i've not voted for one since. not voted for one since. except for that other one he voted for. mr. coburn also voted for t...