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How is headstart doing? i was scandalized to find in the district of columbia, 12% of 8th graders were reading at 8th grid level. i'm thinking, i don't want to cut money from these programs. should we do something about the programs? >> i don't think there is doubt we need reforms within these programs. there's cutting-edge education programs we need to reevaluate and restructure our education system, no question. but now is not the time to be cutting these programs talking about 8th grade. these are young kids who don't have any other places to go they are preventing long term damage to our e...

How is headstart doing? i was scandalized to find in the district of columbia, 12% of 8th graders were reading at 8th grid level. i'm thinking, i don't want to cut money from these programs. should we do something about the programs? >> i don't think there is doubt we need reforms within these programs. there's cutting-edge education programs we need to reevaluate and restructure our education system, no question. but now is not the time to be cutting these programs talking about 8th grade. these are young kids who don't have any other places to go they are preventing long term damage to our e...

Is not that people don't want to help. but they are doing dumb things that are not effective. >> this is not the place to blame headstart from the time they leave the program to the 8th grid especially in washington, d.c. one of the most violent cities in the country. a lot has happened since the time they left headstart program. to throw test scores of an 8th grader on to the head of the head still start program is unfair. >> greta: what about the -- what are we [ unintelligible ] if we are throwing money at headstart then doing zero now we are at the 12% level -- [ unintelligible ] that's pa...

Is not that people don't want to help. but they are doing dumb things that are not effective. >> this is not the place to blame headstart from the time they leave the program to the 8th grid especially in washington, d.c. one of the most violent cities in the country. a lot has happened since the time they left headstart program. to throw test scores of an 8th grader on to the head of the head still start program is unfair. >> greta: what about the -- what are we [ unintelligible ] if we are throwing money at headstart then doing zero now we are at the 12% level -- [ unintelligible ] that's pa...