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That. they re not going to put on the i. t. director who threw hearsay is saying i was told the boss wanted it done. they need direct evidence. well, not our hasn t flipped. de oliveira, the new defendant, we don t know anything about him flipping. do they need one of them to make this a stronger case? or could they do it without? that it would be helpful to them, but i m not sure it s essential. we know from reporting the prosecutors did try hard to get knotted to flip previously before charging him, and so far he hasn t shown any indication to doing that however we are still in the early stages of this. as far as we understand, this grand jury is still active. we don t know other witnesses other testimony or what else is going on down there in florida. obviously we were all focused on washington, d. c., we don t even know about the superseding indictment. we were focused elsewhere. but we don t yet know what else they have, what other cards prosecutors have to play. either they d ....
In here, is page 29 in this indictment. page 29 is everything. painfully nine is everything. this has the details of this conversation and the rto closet. it doesn t have trump, though, his audio recording, it has this implication that trump wanted this to happen. so how, in a court of law, do you prove it? do they need one of these? it seems clear that employee 4 here may be working with jack smith s team. is that your belief as well? i think that s an implication. he turned over text messages. it s not clear whether there is another wire or other recording in that little closet room. they didn t get the. audio it s so detailed. it s not an exact transcription. but it would be a lot for employee 4, the i. t. director, to remember all this by memory, and obviously prosecutors want to be able to back it up. they re going to need to be able to put someone on the witness stand to ascend to kate ....
Be helpful if they did, but it might not be essential to prove their case. one of the charges is about this iran war plan document that trump is on audio talking about. how significant is it that there is audio of him talking about it? does that matter? it s always significant to have the audio. now they have a document. that was only sort of a question mark out there because the former president, through integration had made it seem like maybe it was just bluster, maybe it was a newspaper, who knows? it turns out the document is real, and they ve got, it and they got it back, and they say when they got it back because he returned the documents to the national archives in january, 2022, and detailed here in a handy dandy tour that are lisa reuben found, it explains how long he retained the classified documents illegally, according to prosecutors, and it shows they actually got the document back and so again it helps bolster their case to be able to show the jury, here is the do ....
Trump actually did when the 2020 election, he is the rightful winner, and she was a great president, and joe biden is out to get him. the question is, why am i going to elect you? why wouldn t i just electoral trump? now, we keep saying, you say this, i say this, a lot of other people i know say this, this is important, this matters for our democracy, and it does matter for history. no question. how do you think democrats should be talking about these indictments so that people are connecting with it? and what, if any mistakes you see people making out there? i think that this is tricky for president biden because he does not want to, and should not comment on a legal process. especially since the department of justice is involved here. but i actually think biden can say, look, it is not appropriate for me to comment on the legal process but he can say what he said before. in the lead up to the 2022 midterms. which is the former president, he did what no president in american histo ....