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He then goes to a location in russia that is a hot bed for islamic extremism, comes home and starts posting videos on the web of a radicalizer, a radical -- a person who is known to make bombs and kill people. when you think about that, how were the dots not connected? >> yeah, well, when you string that all together, it's obvious that dots were connected. i want to be absolutely certain, i am not stating or confirming about the conversations with the cia. we haven't got that far yet. i can confirm to you that the russians did once in the spring send the communication to u.s. authorities and a...

Of opportunities as to what they can do including having the person followed. but they have thousands of people on the lists and they have to triage them as to who they think are important. >> that's right. and that could be part of why this happened. let me ask you. so the fbi says, all right, we don't think there is anything here. the russians then go to the cia. the cia says we want this guy added to the terror watch list, which doesn't happen. although he's on other databases. he then goes to a location in russia that is a hot bed for islamic extremism, comes home and starts posting videos...

Conclusive. they state conclusions in there but they don't have the factual basis. it was sufficient for the fbi to open a file, interview him, interview neighbors and his family and determine what level of risk they believe was possible. at that point they have a number of opportunities as to what they can do including having the person follow him. but they have thousands of people on the lists and they have to triage them as to who they think are important. >> that's right. and that could be part of why this happened. let me ask you. so the fbi says, all right, we don't think there is anythi...