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i had a little bit with him tonight. you guys are playing it too safe. and this is a balancing test. okay, there are going to be cases, but the vaccine, the rate of vaccine, who we've gotten vaccinated already, the fact that there is an increase in masks, messaging has been working with trump out of the way, not all surges are the same. and you have to balance that against the depression to the economy, the depression to our way of life of just straight up depression, and you're playing it too safe. >> how -- better safe than sorry. i don't believe in this playing it too safe. >> i a...

argument. here is- the argument i would make with fauci. i had it a little with him tonight. you guys are playing too safe. this is a balancing test. okay. there are going to be cases but the vaccine, the rate of vaccine, who we have gotten vaccinated already. the fact that there is an increase in masking. the messaging has been working, with trump out of the way. not all surges are the same. and you have to balance that, against the depression to the economy, the depression to our way of life, which is straight-up depression. and you are playing it too safe. >> how are they -- bette...

gun at three different shootings at atlanta area spas. let's bring in kaitlan collins and jeff zeleny in atlanta. jeff, first to you. what do we know about the meeting that the president and vice president are in right now? >> reporter: we know president biden and vice president harris have been meeting for more than an hour with seven community members including five state leaders here in georgia. they're in the building behind me here on the campus of emeory univ university. it's running a bit long, but we know that president biden is going to be delivering remarks after this meeti...

declaring that science is back after another epic clash over covid restrictions on when we can finally get back to normal. senator rand paul and dr. anthony vouching feuding it from americans need to continue wearing masks after getting vaccinated. >> you've been vaccinated and you parade around in two masks for show. you can't get it again, there is virtually a 0% chance are going to get it and you're telling people that have had the vaccine and have immunity, you are defying everything we know about immunity by telling people where to wear masks who have been vaccinated. >> let me ...

office. and in the midst of all of this, president biden will meet with stacey abrams, the woman widely credited helping flip the state of georgia and hand democrats control of the house. it comes at a critical time for voting rights in the peach state. sweeping new voting restrictions could be voted on as soon as monday. more on all of that coming up but first i want to bring in my colleague kelly o'donnell at the white house and blayne alexander in atlanta. kelly, this trip has taken a whole different meeting since the shooting. what is the focus going to be? >> there are definit...