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And hating and wreaking havoc and fear? is that what -- is that the recommendation? i think we are living in a time that proves that point even more so. so it's not about the politics for her. it's about the principle. >> that's right. you know, she talks about really not liking politics in the book. you know, so i'm sure the question is going to come up, is she going to run for office. she says emphatically in the book that she's not. that ten years spent in the spotlight in public life in the political sphere showed her that it's just a very nasty space and it's not something that she wants ...

I'm loyal. to a fault, i'm loyal. >> loyalty. you know, some of these people have like a 10% loyalty meaning if they sneeze in the wrong direction they're gone. >> whitaker reportedly has no intention of recusing himself from the russia investigation. if he did, it's hard to imagine how and why he would have gotten the job in the first place. so let's talk about it. john barrett is a law professor at st. john's university, and john dean is a former white house nixon counsel. perfect gentlemen to talk about and no hard names because they're both johns. i'll get them both right. this is for john...

Come from under because of the deep seated racism in this country. he understands exactly what he's saying and doing when he uses those types of terms when referring to african-americans in general and african-american women in many particular. and it was just to hear what he was saying to abby, all of it was bad from the first lady to april to yamiche, but that clip that you just played about what he said to abby made my skin crawl. it made me cringe. he is doing these kinds of things deliberately. he should be ashamed of himself. but i know that he is not. >> i want to put this up. this is a...

Journal" reporting that the feds have evidence that president trump was directly involved in paying off stormy daniels, karen mcdougal. do you get the sense that campaign finance laws were violated here? >> it certainly would appear that way. as i read that "wall street journal" story, i could just envision the indictment that could come out of all that, a conspiracy to violate the federal campaign laws. whether that will happen or not since michael cohen has pled is a good question. i doubt there will be much further litigation on this in the sense of a prosecution. but david pecker was also ...

Job or any current job that he holds confirmed by the senate. under the appointments clause, there's a serious constitutional question involved. the d.c. circuit in a federal grand jury case involving the mueller investigation has just called for supplemental briefing on that question. a lot of smart constitutional lawyers think that there is a real serious doubt that he's lawfully in office. >> i want to read this because trump just tweeted on matthew whitaker tonight from paris. take a look at this. he said matthew g. whitaker is a highly respected u.s. attorney from iowa. he was chosen by j...