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Unconscionable. >> and you have 16 campuses. the university president stepped in to say listen we have to break this down to have two different plans. did that solve the problem for you now that there is one with abortion coverage and one without? >> that doesn't solve the problem. abortion is not healthcare. we don't want abortion in any healthcare plan. they are still enrolling students automatically into the plan that covers abortions. prolife students have to then go and opt out of the abortion plan, making an extra step. why aren't the students being automatically enrolled into the nonabo...

Explosive interview. it airs again at 2:00 and 6:00 here on fox news. you don't want to miss it. a back to school southernsy at one surgeon college. students at the university of north carolina will be required to get health insurance. if they can't find private insurance on their own they have to enroll in the campus plan which includes abortion coverage. they now created two policies, one with abortion coverage and one without. is that solving the controversy? is it over? kristin hawkins is the executive direction tor directs for life. tell me why there was an opposition to the plan. they ...

Initially, new mexico and pennsylvania had said that the plans would include abortion coverage, but then they reversed course. what about this controversy and is it true that there is a loophole? bring in the panel. juan williams, news analyst for national public radio. k.t. mcfarland, fox news national security analyst, we welcome her to the panel. and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. juan, bart stupak who fought for the president to sign the executive order says this is a win, that new mexico and pennsylvania backed off. pro-life groups say listen, there is still a loophole. what ab...

The choice, to give her the information prior to making a life-altering decision. if she chooses, after seeing the ultrasound to not go through with the abortion, that would be her choice. but my goal is to make sure she has all information in her hands has she moves forward with her decision. >> reporter: oklahoma's democratic governor henry vetoed the bill, calling it flawed, noting it contains no exceptions for women who find themselves victims of rape or incest. the oklahoma house and senate voted to override the governor's veto, prompting a lawsuit by the center for preproductive rights. ...

Voters are going to be if favor of laws that ban abortion coverage and insurance companies. >> five states prohibit abortion coverage in private insurance plans and 12 ban it for public employees. the new legislation that some states were considering would expand the band to insurance exchanges that the states must create under the new federal healthcare law. >> bret: thank you. another possible result of healthcare reform: deficit of doctors. "wall street journal" reports that the nation could face a shortage of 150,000 physician s because of the millions of people expected to be added to ins...