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Limited. he wasn't supposed to ask any questions about the obstruction of justice or potential obstruction of justice or anything that happened while the president was president. he's focusing on wikileaks and this meeting. it was potentially a huge deal because that was, according to the e-mail that was sent to set up that meeting, the first time the trump campaign was told that the russians were actually backing the trump campaign. >> that's right. that is an important part of what mueller is looking at. the idea that if anyway that the president knew about this in advance would set off alar...

Client happy, that happens sometimes. but in terms of bob mueller, let me tell, we're dealing with a former vietnam vet who was wounded in action, who got the -- who was awarded the purple heart. he has been a united states attorney. he has been a chief of the criminal division. that guy's been through it. and he's not going to be influenced one way or the other by rudy giuliani saying i want this thing finished on this day or else. that's just -- it's frankly kind of silly. >> and paul, it occurs to me as well, this question of what will happen between now and november, one thing is already o...

This thing finished on this day or else. that's just -- it's frankly kind of silly. >> and paul, it occurs to me as well, this question of what will happen between now and november, one thing is already on the calendar, correct, the paul manafort trial. >> you know, steve, he's got a long -- mueller's got a long things-to-do list. one is to get paul manafort convicted in that d.c. jury trial that happens in december. he's got to make a decision about whether he's going to subpoena donald trump, which would start off a big, huge battle that would end up in the supreme court. that obviously isn'...

He's got to make a decision about jared kushner, about don junior. they have exposure, including from what's going on in the southern district of new york federal investigation. they might be liable for campaign violations. in addition, don junior may have lied to the senate when he said that the president wasn't told about the meeting with the russian lawyers in advance. so i can go on and on, but again, no way can this be wrapped up any time before -- i don't know, we're talking, again, an average special counsel investigation takes years and years. this is just a year and a half in. >> paul...

Rick dearborn says because they're not concerned about it in the same way. lewandowski and bannon do have individual communications with the president. by the way, you know, those are depending on the circumstances, legitimately privileged communications in front of a congressional committee. and so, you know, there could be a significant element of that, that there are legitimate confidences that are, you know, much more acute with respect to some witnesses than others. >> benjamin, it's reported that bannon may have slipped up on an answer tuesday. he admitted he had conversations with rans ...