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Vis-a-vis russia than that in germany. having said that i do think one of the things i found very interesting about this dialogue that macron is trying to pursue, is that he really is doing it in consultation, very, very close consultation with germany. they have differences, of course they do, and they are exposed in different ways to what happens or what might happen should there be an invasion of ukraine, but he has -- macron has been at pains to consult not only with germany all the way through. after we left kyiv on tuesday we went straight to berlin where he debriefed the german chancell...

>> nic, what is their attitude as far as you can tell toward ukrainians these days? generally russians think of ukrainians as their brothers, but is the state media trying to portray the kyiv government as kind of the enemy? >> reporter: certainly the government and an absolute diminution of president zelensky at every opportunity. president putin when he met with president macron, they held a press conference just on monday, you know, six days ago, he used some really pretty vile language, i suppose, is the best way to put it, when referencing zelensky. and you hear that in abundance here. bu...

The problem for the administration is they don't hold the initiative here. this is a crisis largely brought about in recent months by mr. putin. he really has to decide how this is going to play out. and strategically this simply isn't good for an administration. as you know, they want to put the lion's share of their calories to focus on the so-called indo-pacific, in particular on china, and what do they find themselves, dealing increasingly with european security as well as with the middle east. this has strategically become a much more demanding world for the administration so this can't b...

People, but not full scale. >> nic, what is their attitude as far as you can tell toward ukrainians these days? generally russians think of ukrainians as their brothers, but is the state media trying to portray the kyiv government as kind of the enemy? >> reporter: certainly the government and an absolute diminution of president zelensky at every opportunity. president putin when he met with president macron, they held a press conference just on monday, you know, six days ago, he used some really pretty vial language, i suppose is the best way to put it, when referencing zelensky. and you hear...

Say they are now attacking the convoy. that they have begun to do strikes on the vehicles. the 40 miles long in some places several vehicles wide, but the convoy, as far as we can tell, and according to u.s. officials, continues to be stalled. it is not making a rapid advance on the city. but some of that is because of logistics delays. some could be because of the russian army regrouping. but based on what we were hearing from the french about their call with vladimir putin about macron's call with vladimir putin and what kier was just reporting about putin's statements on russian television,...