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of staff mark meadows testified that he knew the mob he was about to incite and send marching to the capital was armed. >> i was in the vicinity where i heard a conversation and the president said something to the effect of, i don't care that they have weapons. >> cassidy hutchinson testifying under oath about that. she testified to the president's eagerness to join the mob at the capitol. also, his counsel's horror at the prospect and his fears being charged with, according to her, every crime imaginable. hard to imagine what happens next. in a moment, stephanie murphy will be handl...

Which i believe according to the laws of physics is impossible, and of course driven by ill motives. The story broke land wednesday. We are six days into this and the speed i guess we knew there was a whistleblower complaint coming out of the dni. One of the defining features of the trump era is the incredible speed, ferocity with which information happens. It was apt that we would end up here after all these months of waiting around, that the thing that turned out to be the trigger could turn it this quickly. Its a great point, it was last wednesday the Washington Post broke the story about t...

This is not an insignificant share of them that are cheering on this type of mechanisms or operations in washington for the very purpose of stalling what they believe is ineffective. >> a republican electorate with the primaries, continuing to see the candidates that push that sort of stuff. let me ask you about kyrsten sinema, since i have you, and since you know arizona so well, bucking both parties saying americans don't like them and she's right, americans don't like them. what's your take on what she is doing. >> and the american electorate chose democrats, and an alternative to the repub...

To hang on, but they're the sort of moves that would seriously hamper his control over the majority and thereby seriously hamper his ability to bring forward meaningful legislation that has any chance of making it through the senate, meaning if he wanted to find compromise, with the democrats, always an if in these times, he might not even have the power to do it. >> joining me now is nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake and nbc correspondent vaughn hillyard and washington bureau chief of usa today, susan page. garrett, let's start with the five that are holdouts. who are t...

Vacate, the vote is important to cobble together a majority to select a speaker but it is an example that americans think washington is so out of touch with the real concerns in their daily lives. >> you hear about that on the campaign trail. what do americans say to you, vaughn, about washington, and why there is so much frustration there? >> i think the general election here in 2022 showed us that a majority of americans are frustrated with how republicans have operated in washington, d.c., but on the flip side, there's also a great many republicans who i've talked to over the course of the ...