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I do. i'm a small, horrible person. >> it's all aboveboard. for trump, that's -- >> he knows desantis who is very high in intellect but not quick witted. what if desantis looked up and said, oh, look, ladies and gentlemen, there's con air. maybe he's lost. desantis could have done this. >> you're like me with the con air reference. i take your point. laura, in order to join the debate stage trump would have to sign the rnc pledge, that you would support the nominee no matter who it is. trump said he didn't want to sign it, there were three or four people he wouldn't support. >> at the same tim...

Game. i thought comer delivered. i was skeptical because there was a lot of build up but i thought he delivered. >> and to kaylee's point, why not just answer directly? and if you want to practice aboveboard transactions, why don't you practice in countries that have standard business practices? those are the questions john levine asked earlier. >> why would you have llcs transferring to other llcs transfer to the biden's? it makes no sense. if this is all aboveboard, legitimate business, why not transfer directly? you'll notice the countries hunter biden did business income at china, hungary,...

We want to hol everybody accountable to the same standard. >> mike gallagher making the case for actual transparency during our interview today for american reports. for more let's bring in jonathan fahey and "washington times" affairs reporter -- thank you for coming on. jonathan, to you first, quoting, president biden is doing the right thing and is cooperating thoroughly but house republicans are playing politics in a shamelessly hypocritical attempt to attack president biden. i mean, why are, if they are doing this aboveboard, why are there lawyers looking for these documents and not the f...

Attorney general merrick garland to investigate this. so a lot more to learn, kasie. >> pretty significant escalation there. whitney wild, thank you for that. appreciate it. let's discuss all of this with former investigator john wood and former chief counsel to then vice president joe biden victoria nurse. thank you both for being here. john, let me start with you. do these missing text messages seem suspicious to you at all? i mean, is there any way that you think this is all aboveboard? >> well, it's either something nefarious where somebody was trying to destroy evidence and real incompe...

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