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War. in this our case, crime of aggression, we have more than 600 suspects. and, of course, we started to prosecute them in absentia because all these people, the top politicians, top propaganda agents, they are in russian federation. war crimes, we have now 9,000 war crimes, only about -- war crimes. bombing and civilian objects, civilians, torturing, raping and -- near 9,000 cases. and we have -- >> 9,000 cases. iryna, i know you have your work cut out for you and how hard it is to document the history. i appreciate the work you're doing and i appreciate you being with us this morning. thank...

Are absentia. it happens. the fairest child is when the accused confronts his about kookers. that's what we look in america. it's a real test of political growth, belief of fundamental institutions in a free society, for the russians to take responsibility for acts that were committed in their name. we're not going to see that without a new russia, that's true. but i don't think we should forget that possibility. >> all right. ambassador john bolton, we've got to leave it there. thanks for joining us this morning. >> thanks for having me. >> christi. still ahead, newly revealed text messages...

>> another venue that you suggest is what you call a new russia, so, essentially a post-putin russia. how soon do you think russia will get to a post-putin era? >> well, the sooner the better, obviously. let me just say, i agree with president biden there. i don't think that a russian regime still led by putin and those around him is ever going to fundamentally change, or give up its objectives in ukraine and other parts of the former soviet union. but i do think we had a chance for free and open government in russia in the 1990s. i think a lot of people remember that. i think the chance could...

It could include, as well, the generals and soldiers on the ground. the problem is, yes, for sure. sometimes it's in absentia. sometimes they don't go behind bars. but the process is important and the main thing that we can focus on now is collecting the evidence and helping those at the u.n. do the same. there aesz and there's an effort to build an indictment. we can't say what happens. anything could happen. if one day down the road you have a government that changes, a government that is against president putin, you never know if he can be turned in. >> the soviet union lasted for

Experts say the chances of putin or other russian military or political leaders being on trial for war crimes are not very high. with us to talk about this, hagar jamali, host of "oh, my world" and susan page, washington bureau chief for "usa today." thank you for being with us. hagar, so if it's unlikely that we won't see -- that we'll be seeing a russian war crimes trial, what options does the united states and maybe its allies have to make sure that there's some form of accountability for this? >> thanks, jose. this is an important issue. when i was at the u.s. mission to the u.n., one of t...