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Reservoirs outside of london. in waste water recycling plants. this will cost billions. i think the likelihood is that we will see rises in bills, but the amount of investment that the south—east is of the order of 8 billion over the next 15 years, potentially up to 16 billion up to 2060. so there was an issue of investment needed and how that money will be raised. . , raised. clearly we need infrastructure - raised. clearly we need l infrastructure investment raised. clearly we need - infrastructure investment for raised. clearly we need _ infrastructure investment for some of the _ infrast...

Elections and i'm joined by one of those fighters now, colorado secretary of state jena griswold. good to see you. thank you for being with us. you're always so kind, you're in a different time zone, it is unusually early for you. but you put meat on the bones of this issue, right? we have discussed this, this voting rights thing is an abstraction to a lot of americans. we released a poll under an hour ago at nbc news which demonstrates 76% of americans answered yes to the question, is there a threat to american democracy and majority rule. that's the good news. 76% of americans think there is...

Anything against my -- the good senator from south carolina. but for him to say because he's in the senate, that therefore the voting rights act is not necessary, is the most ludicrous thing i could hear out of his mouth. who told him that black people voted for him in first place? who told him that the reason he's there is because others were not suppressed from being able to vote? >> but in fact, the tim scott problem is america's problem right now, right? because if i, in new york or philadelphia, do not have a problem voting, do not have a problem registering to vote, do not have a problem...

There the whole time. our job is to help ukraine deter russia. make sure that russia understands there will be some really costly, some really costly consequences. whether it is kinetic, troops dying, and we should be doing that in conjunction with ukraine. >> you served in war. it is not an abstraction to you. when you hear that 8,500 service members are on stand by, possibly heading to eastern europe and who knows where else, do you think that's an appropriate decision from president biden to put them to stand by? >> i think it is important. i've done some of those in my younger days. more i...

And he can -- i think he's just knowing the personality patterns from living with stewart rhodes i know the tendency to want to manipulate and snap fingers and say, you know, your fate is in my hands. i can set you free if you do this thing for me. and i think that's what he's doing. >> tasha adams, i appreciate you being with us this morning. what you say is chilling, frankly. please be well and stay safe. . >> thank you very much. that was so fascinating. >> well, you know, what she does there is provide something of a guidebook for how what trump is saying is being heard and being heard b...