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Agencies have more money and staff. right now, facebook is more pr people. jokingly, there s six of them on me right now. i think one of the issues is we ve got to think of it in many ways then there s lawsuits and then the most important thing of all is the reform of antitrust legislation so that things, ftc and the justice department can do something because right now, courts have been overruling this stuff because the way we have been doing antitrust for 100 years or more is, has changed rather dramatically. so it s a multifaceted approach and it s not easy, but every bit will affect everything else and i think that s the problem is there s no easy thing to do to fix this and then there s all the issues around young people. another thing. that s yet another add to the log pile here of this terrible bonfire. it deserves as much attention as we ve paid. so we ll stick a pin in that and i d like for both of you to come back. thank you so much for spending
Their role in spreading disinformation and i wasn t even really aware of how saturated right wing disinformation gets on facebook until i went out and interviewed trump voters in 2016 and i asked a question, where do you get your information about mike flynn or jim comey. none of them said fox news. not one of them were fox news viewers. they got all their news on facebook. yes, they did. it s become the most important distribution news some throughout the world and in this country, it s not as big as it is in other countries. that s one of the things this document is showing, the damage in other county tr is because of this. i did a great interview with the woman who won the nobel peace prize. she was the first person who started me down this path in 2015 showing me data that showed enormous attacks by the government on her and her company, an investigative online
They ll kill you. facebook, and i know some people, they think they re benevolent and they re not. how do you reframe what they actually are in society in their own minds? i think one of the problems they have is they feel like they ve done a lot of good and everybody s focused on the bad. that s unfortunate, but they re the richest and most powerful people in the world and they can do it. i think imagining that they thought this was going to happen. in the case of the cigarette companies, there was evidence they knew exactly what they were doing. and in this case, finally, there were the receipts that they were aware of these massive problems. i think in that case, congress has to move in and do something about it. you re right. they re not the cigarette companies. not the opioid company, although there are addictive elements. you could go through lots of metaphors and try to figure out which it is, but it s an issue across the entire spectrum. youtube has to be in here and many other sites have to be in here. it s about power and control over society in areas that are
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Reporting by 17 media outlets was quote, an effort to leak documents about our company. so far, papers detail the role in hate speech and zuckerberg s personal role in facilitating government censorship abroad. it is no wonder that there are reports that facebook intended to rebrand itself with a name change. joining me now, donny deutsch. i want to bring you in in a second, but i want to ask you, kara, about something our friend, steve schmidt, accused facebook of doing. he called it algorithmic imprisonment. not sure what that word means. it is kind of funny that mark s quote, that was kind of a very hostile quote by him, which signals a lot of fear and worry about himself. it says to me that someone whose platform is accused of trafficking and conspiracy theories is now alleging a
Publication, i guess you would call it. one of the thing that was interesting, she had the data, warned mark zuckerberg, cherl sandburg. in the world right now, facebook is the internet. is the internet, period. i want to ask you to be prescriptive for us. we re going to talk more about facebook s future as congress tries to figure out how and if to regulate it. and the news that they re considering a name change. but first, i want to tell viewers about breaking news. an fda advisory panel has voted to recommend pfizer s covid-19 vaccination for kids 5-11. it s a long awaited hurdle that the vaccine has now cleared. news many, many parents across the country have been waiting for. the vote will be put to the fda itself, which is expected to make a final ruling in the coming days.
Mark zuckerberg at the expense of the rest of us. i don t think he s a bad person. i know a lot of people are sort of attacking him for various things, but i think he s incapable of dealing with what he s created. it s not the person that s bad. it s the architecture of facebook. the problem is what do you do about that at this point given how big it is. i want to understand more about whether internally, there s some sort of tipping point that zuckerberg has on his hands. a little of this is working inside government during controversial times. there s never one whistleblower. always one that opens the door for the second which opens the door for the third which opens the door for mass resignations, investigations. do they understand that that is the precipice at which they sit? i think they ve escaped it so many times they think they re
Five years, what is wrong with facebook. but i m wondering if you can help me understand what s happening at facebook right now. well, actually, it s really interesting because there s sort of a rebellion within the ranks. that s what happened with the whistleblower and others who are leaking things. former facebook people talking about rather significantly now and that hasn t happened before. so frances haugen has set off what has been clearly happening within facebook for months now, which is a real group of people who are sick and tired of what s happening within facebook and want to change it because they can t get their management to change it. i understand that they re so big they can t please everything, but what i don t understand is why they don t react like a human being when bad behavior is identified. i went back and listened to some of your interviews with mark zuckerberg. this was on facebook around the kyle writtenhaus killings
Care about that. but at the same time, we have a responsibility, if you look at the top hundred things that are going viral or getting distribution on facebook within a day, i think we have a responsibility to make sure that those aren t hoaxes and misinformation. literally the opposite is true. facebook s brand mission statement could be hoaxes going viral and being widely distributed on our platform. that is what they do. they do. that was an interesting conversation because then we got into these issues around holocaust deniers and immediately he said they don t mean to lie. i thought, o goodness, really. i think that s the definition of what they do. he then went on to make a mess of it and saying that he would keep them on the platform. two years later, he changed his opinion and did what i had been talking to him about. so that s what happens here is it s sort of the education of