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Has changed. >> as apt as the title seems given what happened on january 6 this was the title i had in mind since 2017. really because the history of the modern republican party is one of insurgency and revolt and destabilization. you can start with pat buchanan in '92 which is what i do chronologically. i work my way forward to sarah palin, the tea party and ultimately to donald trump. the republican party has this history of inviting inside these insurgent elements into the tent and not fully appreciating how destabilizing they can be and how sharing power with them will never work. and that...

Between russia and the west, which is trying to address. and i think we were hoping that he's not going to go into ukraine with this multipronged offensive, which i think is going to -- he's going to incur some significant military costs. the economic and financial costs will take some time. i agree with joe biden that it will take time to feel the pinch of that. but the military cost inside of russia and ukraine, i think they're going to be cost. and i believe that putin thinks there's going to be broader acquiescence. he decided not to go forward with a cyber attack as a way not to totally a...

Falls within our jurisdiction and we are either going to freeze your bank accounts, otherwise blacklist these financial entities and that is the power of the united states. because we are the financial leaders of the world. >> bill: that would take a lot further than what trumpets try to do during his time. which was the tariffs that were applied to all of chinese products. >> michael: it would be a big escalation paired but listen, if it's true, what we've seen this week that the chinese are actually going to give arms to the russian military, then we are in the middle of a proxy war with chi...

Intervene? >> so that's a situation that's impossible to predict. chemical weapons are weapons of mass destruction. their active use in this conflict against defying international opinion takes us into a space we haven't been in. i can't imagine that there would be simply acquiescence as those people died. >> they did use it in syria and barack obama said it would be a red line, of course, famously, and then rode back from the red line in terms of intervention. so they have been used and the world did not respond. >> and if you talk to anybody in the obama administration they will go back to t...

A hospital. like heathens and bombed a mosque with 40 people on inside no idea of casualties yet but it is not a positive situation if you're looking for mayor of mariupol a bag over his head and traipsed him out of the mayor office and didn't like the fact that he wouldn't take the flag down and telling people riot against russian armies that were sitting there. it takes tremendous courage but macs me feel as this group is acting more like isis than they are an army in the year 2022. and as we look ahead see what's else happening a relatively new hit part of the fighting for sustain fighting ...