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>> you're projecting force, intelligence and assets across that border. and that's what post-represented. that's where the enemy was. >> jim matthews was the chief of base, of the c.i.a. base down there. she was there to have her fingers on the pulse of the information that was coming through the base. she never announceuated that, so to speak. in such stark terms. but my sense was she was there to target and kill senior al-qaida leaders. i asked her, do you think we're

There's two different cultures there. one is an analytic culture, people who try to assess things, figure out what is actually happening somewhere and project ahead, and an operational culture that is people who go out and collect intelligence, develop human spies, handle them, run them, if you will. the unique thing about alex station was the fusion of analysis and operations. we pushed the analysts and the operations people together so the operations people knew everything the analysts were thinking and the analysts knew everything the operations people were doing. >> the people i worked wit...

C.i.a. and the joint intelligence go all out and recruit to be a spy. every several weeks, they'd convince him to go to work for them. balowie finds his way into pakistan. very likely, someone suspected

And we're not always looking for the sexy payoff immediately. trying to keep track of all the threads of various threats and which ones are real and which ones aren't real and what connects to what, people say why didn't you connect the dots. well, because the whole page is black. >> to pull a story out of all of this information, but there's no one single intelligence looking at all this information, it's a lot of different brains looking, so the more that you can bring people together and you know, share what's important, the better it works. at that time, the people who had really deep expe...

>> you're projecting force, intelligence and assets across that border. and that's what post-represented. that's where the enemy was. >> jim matthews was the chief of base, of the c.i.a. base down there. she was there to have her fingers on the pulse of the information that was coming through the base. she never announceuated that, so to speak. in such stark terms. but my sense was she was there to target and kill senior al-qaida leaders.