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claims of election fraud. >> quite obviously, surreptitiously passing around usb ports as if they're viles of heroin or cocaine. it's obvious to anyone who is a criminal investigator or prosecutor they're engaged in surreptitious, illegal activity. >> cnn correspondent nick valencia was first in line when giuliani arrived to the courthouse this morning. nick, what did he say to you? >> reporter: he was defiant, alisyn. he seemed to be confident as he entered court before 8:30. if you remember, he was expected to testify before the special purpose grand jury last week before his team ...

Im Jesse Watters along with judge jeanine pirro, richard fowler, dana perino, and greg gutfeld. Its 5 00 in New York City, and this is the five. Le 2024 race just got real pure joe biden doing his best Clint Eastwood impression, challenging donald trump to a pair of debates. Donald trump last two debates in 2020, since then he hasnt shown up to a debate and now he is acting like he wants to debate me again. Make my day, pal. Ill even do it twice. So lets pick the dates, donald. Ii hear you are free on wednesdays. Jesse notice how there were five jump cuts and a 142nd video. Donald trump Except...

The casings, i think, they did well with. i agree that defense is going to explain their way. and i'll tell you one of the things they have to address the prosecution does, is the ballistics in terms of there's a suggestion that the shooter or shooters because there's a -- there's a compelling case to be made or at least a reasonable case to be made that there was more than one shooter. and that the shooter was crouched so that's interesting to me as well. then you kind of layer over that, some of the other side show if you will that they're talking about with the motive. and the financial inc...

The casings, i think, they did well with. i agree that defense is going to explain their way. and i'll tell you one of the things they have to address the prosecution does, is the ballistics in terms of there's a suggestion that the shooter or shooters because there's a -- there's a compelling case to be made or at least a reasonable case to be made that there was more than one shooter. and that the shooter was crouched so that's interesting to me as well. then you kind of layer over that, some of the other side show if you will that they're talking about with the motive. and the financial inc...

Surprising book that he hopes will help him understand his boss. can you tell us about that? >> that was one of the amazing things when we did this reporting is to see how the testimony about trump is so disturbing and has come from republican officials, from his own appointees. these are the people in the room with donald trump. john kelly, retired four-star marine general, told others that he purchased a book by a couple dozen mental health professionals, "the dangerous case of donald trump" to try to understand the psychological basis of this very disruptive president he was dealing with. h...