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Will be good to have mick on his shoulder. to make sure he doesn't let entitlements get out of control. >> let's back up a little bit. let's back this train up. mick mulvaney was not the president's first choice. that was nick ayres. he wasn't the president's first or second choice. but what mick mulvaney does have over those other individuals is he will be relatively unassuming in this white house. can you imagine a donald trump presidency with a chris christie chief of staff? you know, when you had these two alpha males, these bulls in china shops, for lack of a better term, that would have ...

Trump. i think he's a terrible human being. the choice on the other hand is just as bad. >> i want to turn to my panel, geoff bennett, reuters correspondent jeff mason, and time magazine contributor, jay newton small. geoff bennett, what is the significance of this acting title instead of a permanent replacement for john kelly, that stands out. >> reporter: two sources familiar tell us it was mick mulvaney who requested of president trump to have that acting title. that reflects his desire to do this job for a limited amount of time. his demand, really to have something of a safe exit and a so...

Welcome back to "hardball." after a drama-filled search for a new chief of staff, president trump announced in a tweet that he has picked mick mulvaney from the office of management and budget as his -- figure this one out if you can -- acting chief of staff. nbc news reporting mulvaney asked for the acting title and he wanted to enter the position with a safe exit in place. this is like colin powell. you have to have an exit strategy. the reporting is that mulvaney told us as late as thursday night he wasn't eager to take the job and didn't think he would get it. president trump was desperate...

It would cause too much of a distraction that could be one for the department and the white house. so that's ryan zinke. our reporting is that mulvaney woke up yesterday completely unaware that by the end of the day, he would at least temporarily become president trump's third chief of staff. the president made this decision after polling several members of the cabinet, including at a thursday evening white house holiday party. trump was so eager to kill this story line that no one wanted to be his chief of staff. two sources tell us it was actually mulvaney who asked for an acting title. and ...

Starting position. >> because he works in the white house complex right now, their offices are in the eisenhower executive office building right next to the white house. many of the people who are staffing the president at the white house actually work in the same building where he works so he understands what it means in this administration to work with the president the way that he does his job. >> that could be why he's asking for the acting title. that might be exactly -- >> it might be. >> he knows what he's getting himself into. >> i suspect he does know what he's getting himself into. i...