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Way that the notion of acting white seem to be deployed more frequently against black americans than other minority groups who have their own struggles. is that because of the particular history of the slave experience and the way that america has always been on the one has not, fascinated by the contributions of black americans but also, fearful of the notion of black americans? specifically black power in our history? >> i think that's absolutely fair. i think it is fair to say there's an expectation that black people will manifest their blackness to some extent but not too much. i mean, the...

Believe, where they interviewed lots of, at least a couple black people going on the market and they would explicitly remove references to their race from their resume. not all of them. just enough so that they were not perceived to be too black. so in a professional predominantly white setting, the pressures come from the fact that certain institutional norms might be at odds with stereo types about race. and you don't want to be perceived as the angry black guy. you don't want to be perceived as the guy who won't fit in. you don't want to be perceived as the person playing the race card. so ...

>> the conference is turning to personal responsibility. what just what government can do but we as individuals can do and our families and homes to make a difference. one of things i noticed when i taught in washington, d.c., never have a single black male student. part of this is there's a problem of retention of african-american males in higher education, goes to the construction of black mask lynnty. we have to do something about this that says that a black kid with a book is acting white. that's not true and we need to get them to get into education and learn more thank you so much. we'll...

But 12 and 13-year-olds, juan, and just this barrage of this stuff, day in and day out, what do you say? >> it's corrupt. i mean, this is a culture of failure. it is dogging black america. i think you are right to call it out. but you know what happens is the critics as you say come out and they say oh, if you say that you are not really black. you are not authentic or you are acting white. or, you know, you are getting in the way of people who are making crazy bank. that the rappers. but the fact is the rappers are the sell-outs, bill. the rappers, you know, you think about the snoop dogg, th...

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