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For succession, like rod rosenstein, for example, has enormous conflicts and there's no way that he could have or should have made rod rosenstein the acting a.g. so he picked the a.g.'s chief of staff who was lawful -- >> could you imagine george w. bush ever picking up the phone and saying, mike, this guy's really been bothering me, i need to get after him, how can we investigate this guy? >> no. >> what's the difference? >> the difference is that george w. bush was a different kind of person. >> meaning what? >> meaning he was a person with a very substantial consciousness of what the limits...

Counsel, squashed the idea, reportedly warning the president once again that if you do something like this, bad things could happen to you. the news raises even more red flags about trump's appointment of matthew whitaker as acting a.g. he once said he would indict hillary. cuomo's court in session. norm eisen, michael zeldin. gentlemen, thank you for joining me just before thanksgiving. i am thankful for both of you handsome lads. >> thank you, chris. >> let's bandy it about. norm eisen, i'm the president of the united states. i'm in charge of the doj. you work for me. i come to you, and i sa...

That's a great point that you make because it sheds light on something else that used to be clouded in mystery. would the president really ever go to mcgahn and say i want comey out, i want to go get rid of somebody? did mcgahn really have to say to him, calm down, don't do this, i won't do this? remember, the white house and the surrogates all said that never happened. this story makes that story a lot more likely. this is the kind of memo you wrote, just as you said, you've written them before. >> there are other stories about him having voiced things he'd like to do involving foreign relati...

Dejected by it. worried -- >> that's a fancy word, mike, help me understand it. >> no, it's not. depressed. i think worried means that you think there's an actual likelihood that the tanks are going to roll. i don't think there is. i don't think the doj today or tomorrow. >> why would he put somebody like whitaker as the acting doj, acting a.g.? >> somebody like whitaker in what respect? >> a loyalist, somebody with very heavy-handed views about this. certainly someone that you didn't vet that carefully to see whether or not he was going to reflect well on you, undervetting. >> i think he had ...

He knew that he had been -- he served in a senior position. and he knew that other people who might very well be in line for succession, like rod rosenstein, for example, has enormous conflicts and there's no way that he could have or should have made rod rosenstein the acting a.g. so he picked the a.g.'s chief of staff who was lawful -- >> could you imagine george w. bush ever picking up the phone and saying, mike, this guy's really been bothering me, i need to get after him, how can we investigate this guy? >> no. >> what's the difference? >> the difference is that george w. bush was a diffe...