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Wrong, they can lose everything that they have got. that's the problem. you've got to keep marching, protesting, being involved. we did see a little bit of an activism gap for a couple of years. i will tell you this, you can't get everything you want just by voting one time. if you vote for the wrong person, you can lose everything you got. this guy wants to destroy the pell grants. that's his real position. >> you think he wants to eliminate pell grants? >> you all but eliminate it whn you that i can that kind of bite out of it. we're the only country making it harder for our kids to get educ...

They can learn that if they vote wrong, they can lose everything that they have got. that's the problem. you've got to keep marching, protesting, being involved. we did see a little bit of an activism gap for a couple of years. i will tell you this, you can't get everything you want just by voting one time. if you vote for the wrong person, you can lose everything you got. this guy wants to destroy the pell grants. that's his real position. >> you think he wants to eliminate pell grants? >> you all but eliminate it whn you that i can that kind of bite out of it. we're the only country making i...

But there is an enthusiasm gap that's out there. what do you make of the 20% difference from 2008 to where it is right now and romney is playing to their fears and saying you got to vote for him. what about that enthusiasm gap? >> i think the young people in america learned the hard way, you can't get everything you want just by voting. they can learn that if they vote wrong, they can lose everything that they have got. that's the problem. you can't get everything you want just by voting, you have to keep marching, protesting, being involved. we did see a little bit of an activism gap for a co...