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Things can go haywire, but i do think people are pining for him to be struggling pmore. >> five months until iowa. always a good reminder of that. at the same time, after two debates, after a long summer for all of these candidates kwhowhoe been running for a very long time, many for at least half a year. you look at joe biden, and with 20 candidates in the race, he's still pulling in, in most polls he's pulling in one out of three democratic votes. it does seem, even though he may not excite the activist base, there are a lot of democrats and i would suggest independents pining for a candidat...

That's a very low sample number for a poll, and the margin of error was six, and people forget that that margin applies either way, either if somebody could be up as much as 6 or down as much as 6. that's a huge swing, and i think what i would say is all of us, while we're very interested in the polling, especially those of us tar looking at -- us that are looking at donald trump's numbers in swing states right now, we've got to be really cautious here, keep our eye on the prize, try to unite behind our nominee whoever it ends up being because we counted this guy out in 2016, and we can't affo...

Two blocks from his district. >> tammy: these are individuals who know what the politics are. they know what the money as derek they know they don't have it. clearly there is an activist base that -- they are not clearly reiterating them racist message. did you find that? how did you approach people and were they suspicious? how did the conversations happen. >> it was organic and we lead with the president streets and we ask people, on a national level everyone seems to be mad about the president's tweets. i said what do you think, is he racist, is he wrong, is he misinformed? every person sai...

Politics are. they know what the money is. they know they don't have it. clearly there is an activist base that -- they are not clearly reiterating the racist message. did you find that? how did you approach people and were they suspicious? how did the conversations happen? >> it was organic and we lead with the president's tweets and we asked people, on a national level, everyone seems to be mad about the president's tweets. i said what do you think, is he racist, is he wrong, is he misinformed? every person said they don't care about his tweets. what he's saying is true. they are glad actual...

Bach. we need to accept the fact we are headed toward the soviet era. no one wants to go back to barack obama 16% unemployment for african-americans but they like the legacy of ronald reagan and turning the world upside down. steve: well, you cited some statistics there. barack obama's approval rating, according to gallup is 60% here in the united states. was 90% among democrats. so you would think that it would fly in the face of conventional wisdom that you attack a guy who is so popular. >> yep. but it's the activist base that will help those democrat nominees get the nomination. they need ...