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You cannot -- you have heard the story, catch me if you can. you have seen that? you think you are going to catchall of these young, healthy people and make them sign up and pay more money for what? not for themselves but because they are going to be part of the greater pool. that's what they call the death spiral as it relates to insurance. ya'll got to change this plan significantly. the other thing is, you will bring in some jack ass company, you got great organizations, you got microsoft. >> apple. >> you got google. you have the people for facebook. bring them in and set up the platform. ...

Brought in the actuaries, the insurance people. you should have been willing to listen. and you should have been willing to compromise. and so you now have this incredible failure and you cannot make -- you think you're going to get young people paying more money? for what? and you think having irs agents to track them down? >> i promise we're going to get to you and you can respond to the young person question. i can't. i love how the president now said that we're going to bring in the best and brightest to fix it. i'm like why didn't we bring in the best and brightest to start it? we'll come...

Failure. i say unfortunately. you have heard the story. catch me if you can. you think you will catch young, healthy people, make them sign up and pay more money for what? because they will be part of the greater pool? that's what they call the death spiral relating to insurance. you have to change this plan significantly. and you bring in some jack ass company. you have great organizations, microsoft. >> apple. >> google. the kids' facebook. bring them in to set up the platform. don't bring in your cronies. i won't go into who it is the, to set this up. doomed for failure. >> now they are bri...

Brought in the actuaries, insurance people. you should have been willing to listen and you should have been willing to compromise. so now you have this incredible failure and you cannot make -- you think you will get young people paying more money? for what? >> no. >> you think there are enough irs agents to track them down? >> all right. i promise we'll get to you and you can respond to the young person question. i can't. i love how the president said we are going to bring in the best and brightest to fix it. why didn't we bring in the best and brightest to start it? makes sense. much more wi...

Failure. i say unfortunately. you have heard the story. catch me if you can. you think you will catch young, healthy people, make them sign up and pay more money for what? because they will be part of the greater pool? that's what they call the death spiral relating to insurance. you have to change this plan significantly. and you bring in some jack ass company. you have great organizations, microsoft. >> apple. >> google. the kids' facebook. bring them in to set up the platform. don't bring in your cronies. i won't go into who it is the, to set this up. doomed for failure. >> now they are bri...