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To get any health care bill through. make his plan available 72 hours before the televised session. include congressional democrats who oppose the bill. and include actuaries, experts from the cbo, experts offered by republicans, and representatives of any health care sectors that have made any special deals with the administration. the president had announced he would host the republican lawmakers this week to discuss health care reform followed by this bipartisan half day long summit on the 25th on the tv. >> and what i want to do is to ask them to put their ideas on the table and then after...

They don't want. the reality is really much more complicated because the fewer people you have signing on to these plans, the higher some of the rates go, and so premiums themselves can actually then discourage people from signing up because people are -- they get shy with some of the pricing that they're seeing. >> so you're saying four million and not -- where is the cbo getting this $15 million then? >> well, they -- they've run their analysis in different ways. it's similar to the one they had for the house bill. the $4 million figure comes from the centers for medicare and medicaid servic...

I don't think what happened recently was a failure. >> congressman, wait a second. can i ask you this, though? you just said the affordable care act is collapsing on itself. >> it is. >> that's just simply -- i understand there are counties that have, you know, insurers pulling out. staten island that you represent, it is not -- it just simply is not a true statement to say it's collapsing on itself, particularly not in the state of new york. it's just not actuarily accurate. >> this is a national issue, and actually it is happening throughout the nation. you're right, there are -- >> but the ...

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Will not cut costs as promised. remember the 2500 number? it will raise insurance rates for a 11 million americans according to a government agency who is watching these numbers for us. good morning, everybody. happy tuesday, i'm martha maccallum. here in "america's newsroom." >> good morning, martha. >> hi, irrake. >> i'm eric shawn sitting in for bill hemmer. it's a non-partisan report and predicts 65% of small business will supreme premiums go up. those plans cover 11 million people and employers will likely pass those on to guess who, the workers. martha: that is the way it usually works s...