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Would have done exactly the same thing if the situation had been reversed. president obama's former white house counsel concedes as much. this whole thing about this was supposedly president obama's seat to fail, just isn't a serious one. it is a seat that came up in an election year. everyone understands election-year seats are going to be more volatile. the republicans fault on this, they won, this is president trump's seat to fill. >> bret: caroline, i know we have a lot of hearings to go. >> i have to say, not to relitigate things that we argued about last year, justice kennedy was appoint...

What is best for the country. holding a seat hostage for partisan reasons i think it's very unfortunate. >> bret: let me get your predict. do they get the eight democrats to get to 60, caroline? >> i think it is going to be a process of examination and thorough vetting, will have to see. >> bret: ed, you're pretty confident? >> there will be no filibuster effort. the final margin might involve fewer than 60 efforts to make votes if they want to massage it that way. >> bret: add caroline appreciate the time you just heard it, we're going to hear what the panel thinks come on the reaction from t...

Is going to be an independent body and that this litmus test doesn't somehow indicate that whoever is selected is going to be too willing to rule in favor of the president. i think that it's going to be a discussion. the senate is going to want to examine his record, going to want to meet with him, they are going to want to have hearings and really investigate thoroughly his background and his willingness to indicate whether he is an independent thinker or whether he is not. >> bret: caroline, do you see anything in his past, and his opinions, and his tenth circuity leads you to believe that h...

Is going to be an independent body and that this litmus test doesn't somehow indicate that whoever is selected is going to be too willing to rule in favor of the president. i think that it's going to be a discussion. the senate is going to want to examine his record, going to want to meet with him, they are going to want to have hearings and really investigate thoroughly his background and his willingness to indicate whether he is an independent thinker or whether he is not. >> bret: caroline, do you see anything in his past, and his opinions, and his tenth circuity leads you to believe that h...

Would have done exactly the same thing if the situation had been reversed. president obama's former white house counsel concedes as much. this whole thing about this was supposedly president obama's seat to fail, just isn't a serious one. it is a seat that came up in an election year. everyone understands election-year seats are going to be more volatile. the republicans fault on this, they won, this is president trump's seat to fill. >> bret: caroline, i know we have a lot of hearings to go. >> i have to say, not to relitigate things that we argued about last year, justice kennedy was appoint...