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Also the actual problem on the ground that's been created here. what you saw secretary mnuchin do is come out, use the backdrop of the white house briefing room to add oomph to sanction turkey if they cross some unspecified red line. >> the opposite of we have here a strongly worded letter that we have not yet signed. >> we can do this and we will. >> but we're not signing it. but let me reiterate we're not doing anything. if you're trying to reassure the lindsey grahams of the world, make no mistake, we're not doing anything yet. >> this wasn't a policy move, it was a political move. it was 1...

Throughout a case that utilities brought saying this is something for epa to deal with it. if no one will deal with it then maybe it needs to be an issue and legislation born from it. >> alec, did you say 61 is news to you? >> it is, yeah. i guessed that the u.s. would be further down than the scandinavian countries because our country is bought out by fossel fuel and big corporations but that is news. yes, it is something to work from. >> maybe convince you to watch tv yet, alec. >> yeah. go, the most important thing, if people want to help you, if they want to add density, add oomph, potency...