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Almost depression levels if you consider the people unemployed and the people discontinued looking for employment. i think the president is trying address it. and the other side of it is, if the president did that, many of us also believe that he would be tagged by the extreme right, not republicans, extreme right as giving preferential treatment to african americans, the president is in a very tough spot and we in the congressional black caucus recognize that. it's a tough situation, a white president, frankly, could be pushed a great deal more than we would push president obama because nobod...

Doctor on trial? megyn: they need to erase michael jackson's fame and the extent to which he was beloved by so many of these people including some of these jurors. >> correct. but they can't do it. imagine a pink bear on a unicycle with a nazi helmet. think about that. it's there. so you do address it. but you get in and out. this isn't about michael jackson. this is about. i think he spent way too much time and it was not effective. megyn: he seemed to be reminding them that this was an addict. this is what addicts do, sometimes they take too much medication and kill themselves. they spoke to...