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He's someone who can be out there and voice that. >> i've read 25 years of hawkish op-ed pieces in "the new york times" and "the wall street journal" and "washington post." they are one thing good at, they raise money for people like adelson and hire them to work nor the enterprise american institute. and they sit there and write op-ed pieces. it's a powerful voice and we knew where they stood, war, war, war. they have been absolutely consistent and this guy still is. this is trouble. john? >> the idea that he's just going to be another person on the national security team is just nonsense. he...

Repeal the individual mandate, how do you think that will sell over on capitol hill? >> well, they can't give up. i look around that committee and i see all these senators, well-dressed, good pay, good titles. all of us have insurance paid for by taxpayers. and they're trying now a new way to take insurance from 900,000 ohioans. i stand with governor kasich, a republican. i'm a democrat. i stand with him to say, no, stop it on trying to go after people's insurance. because if they repeal the individual mandate, they'll take away the subsidies and people will lose their insurance because they w...

How do you think that will sell over on capitol hill? >> well, they can't give up. i look around that committee and i see all these senators, well-dressed, good pay, good titles. all of us have insurance paid for by taxpayers. and they're trying now a new way to take insurance from 900,000 ohioans. i stand with governor kasich, a republican. i'm a democrat. i stand with him to say, no, stop it on trying to go after people's insurance. because if they repeal the individual mandate, they'll take away the subsidies and people will lose their insurance because they won't be able to afford it. >> y...

One is the people who contribute the vast bulk of the money to the republican party are the ultra wealthy people like robert mercer, adelson, the cokes. they save millions upon millions a year of taxes if they can get the top rate cut. secondly, a lot of republicans, such as paul ryan, i think in their heart of hearts really believe in a sort of ann or andean world, carry the rest of us on their backs. their incentives, taxes, are - extremely important, where as that on the rest of us has no significance whatsoever. >> and they seem determined to cut back on the great society and fdr era socia...

Street or covered taxes from wall street. tax legislation. people who have worked on tax legislation there is not one who can honestly say that they see any way for this piece of paper to become the law of the land. joining us now, david cay johnston, pulitzer prize winning tax reporter who founded d.c.report.org, a nonprofit organization that covers the trump administration. also with us adelson currently works with the center for american progress action fund. david, there are so many elements to go into here. but of course in the white house briefing today, one of the very first questions w...