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Is in the way of releasing the senate report. why would it be important to actually get that report out now? >> well, i think president obama had it just right. he said that in discussing this week, his support for the release of the document. he said it was important to know where we had been. and it's important to serve as a guide to where we're going and he got it right on both counts. >> when you look at these tensions between the cia and congress and they're playing out so publicly. i want to ask you, does it have anything to do in your view with the fact we have never really had a reckon...

Week, his support for the release of the document. he said it was important to know where we had been. and it's important to serve as a guide to where we're going and he got it right on both counts. >> when you look at these tensions between the cia and congress and they're playing out so publicly. i want to ask you, does it have anything to do in your view with the fact we have never really had a reckoning for those torture practices? >> that's exactly right. the nation hasn't really yet come to grips adequately with what we did and what the consequences of those acts were. what's more, there...

Department refused to act. to this day the senator says state department blocked access to witnesses and documents which lead directly to mrs. clinton and what the white house knew. >> we've been stonewalled on that question. we've asked time and again who was in the meeting and what was the substance of that meeting. we have not gotten answers for that. >> the report also states that it was known almost immediately that the attack did not grow out of the protests and this information was not shared adequately, the significance of the information minimized. just to put this in context, gretche...

So you're quite right and it is not anti-capitalist as such to believe that working people should be compensated adequately for the work they do. >> right. >> i should say, you know, conservative catholics have been saying if you look at the document, the pope does reaffirm the church's opposition to abortion and he does and what's interesting is he also leaks that back to the need for economic justice. and i think what you're seeing here is not a change in the church's position on abortion. but a return to the priorities of the church, say, of 20 or 30 years ago where abortion was part of wha...

Breakdown. that's even evident when asking very, very simple questions about the testing of this product before it went online. listen. >> that the system -- that our portion of the system, the cgi was responsible for, that our functionality worked. >> and it didn't. >> yes. >> it did not in the end result, correct? >> when it became part of integrated end-to-end system. >> you knew it was going to be integrated. there are many subcontractors than wasn't a surprise. do you have something to say about the testing? >> let me be clear about our role in testing. our work, the data services hub, te...