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Suspects were subject to enhanced interrogation techniques. that has all been repudiated during the obama administration. president trump never fully turning his back on torture techniques, and that will be the problem for haspel during the hearing. if she is asked would you engage in this again, everyone is going to want to know what her answer is. right now, it is not permitted. if president trump were to reinstitute it, would she just follow orders, so to speak? would that be a credible defense on her part and that is considered to be a lot of what they will be focusing on. what was her rol...

Before her confirmation hearing, that is set for wednesday morning. it comes a few days after sources tell cnn that haspel went to the white house and offered to withdraw her nomination. barbara starr is at the pentagon with more. this was already going to be a tight one, but clearly there is some backup plan in the works now. >> reporter: indeed, poppy. you know, think of it as plan b if you will, looking at other candidates that they might put forward if haspel falters on wednesday at her confirmation hearing. all eyes really focused on that because gina haspel, very well respected as an int...

Is in the way of releasing the senate report. why would it be important to actually get that report out now? >> well, i think president obama had it just right. he said that in discussing this week, his support for the release of the document. he said it was important to know where we had been. and it's important to serve as a guide to where we're going and he got it right on both counts. >> when you look at these tensions between the cia and congress and they're playing out so publicly. i want to ask you, does it have anything to do in your view with the fact we have never really had a reckon...

Week, his support for the release of the document. he said it was important to know where we had been. and it's important to serve as a guide to where we're going and he got it right on both counts. >> when you look at these tensions between the cia and congress and they're playing out so publicly. i want to ask you, does it have anything to do in your view with the fact we have never really had a reckoning for those torture practices? >> that's exactly right. the nation hasn't really yet come to grips adequately with what we did and what the consequences of those acts were. what's more, there...

Well, i mean first of all it's beyond insensitive, inhumane and indefensible. what he's really saying is john mccain doesn't matter, and it's not true. especially this week ironically, i mean the whole debate we were having with the cia confirmation was about torture. and reason we've changed our torture practices in the united states is because of john mccain. the interesting thing from the podium today, you know when you get caught saying something and someone says where did you hear that, they're more concerned about who said it. >> i just want to play -- i think it's important. let's play ...