U.s. supreme court, and now that barrier is no longer there, so is truly a story moment, and one in which so many people in our profession and around the world people who aren't lawyers can look to this moment and say the barriers are really coming down in a very significant way. >> thank you both very much for sharing your perspective -- i'm sorry. i'm sorry, i heard something from the control room. thank you both very much for being here this evening, justice jackson offered to bring some indictment on her first day on the bench, take a listen to her inaction at the court. >> isn't the issue...