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And then in some cases there are differences. i thought it was important kamala harris said i didn't make a public schoolteacher. she said i'm going to make somebody who has a record in public education. she left herself room for an administrator, perhaps. but, i mean, i think that matters. if you take somebody straight from the classroom and make them a secretary of education, that might be a big jump in job. as compared to somebody who was administratoring, you know, public schools at some point. but i think that what we've seen from warren what is surprising to us is and actually echoes som...

And improve education in georgia. that's what they care about. >> joy, i would like -- both you and katie and you on this. in terms of being in georgia and seeing the campaigns on the ground. not just in terms of what they're saying at the rallies, what were you able to see in terms of get out the voest. obviously it's got a different cast in georgia than this does in a lot of other high-profile races because there's been so much concern about potential voter suppression and brian kemp's dual-hatted role. administratoring voting as the secretary of state and also being at the top of the ticket...

Administration. and country and government and we need to do something about it. and they're going to tie not only the irs and the nsa in the a.p. and james rosen but the affordable health care act in it, which has the irs as an important part of administratoring it. and they're going to whip it up into a huge anti-government crusade like they tried in 2010. whether it will work again, the next time around, i don't know. but that's certainly who rand paul is and what he stands for. >> can we just remember that rand paul also said he was okay using drones on people who robbed liquor stores? >> ...

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