and improve education in georgia. that's what they care about. >> joy, i would like -- both you and katie and you on this. in terms of being in georgia and seeing the campaigns on the ground. not just in terms of what they're saying at the rallies, what were you able to see in terms of get out the voest. obviously it's got a different cast in georgia than this does in a lot of other high-profile races because there's been so much concern about potential voter suppression and brian kemp's dual-hatted role. administratoring voting as the secretary of state and also being at the top of the ticket. joy and katie what you're seeing about the mobilization of get out the vote efforts. >> i love to go to a diner, i feel like you get the real opinion of folks. i spoke to the manager of a diner in macon who said listen, black folks are energized, people are getting out to vote. but white voters are, too, and this particular person said to me, georgians down here love their guns and there are a lot of people who are uncomfortable with an african-american