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Without any spending. >> i'm just saying -- >> chris: let me talk about that and let me bring in dana because i completely agree with you that the 2012 campaign may have been joined this week and there will be a lot of issues that we are just going to argue about for the next year and a half. but they have to make a deal in the next couple of months on the debt and what i was trying to get at very successfully with coburn and van hollen was what are democrats going to be willing to give and what are republicans going to be willing to accept to increase the debt limit. everybody i talk to says ...

Secretary of state clip ton and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff has said that the white house has made no decision about supplying weapons to the rebels. but the administration admitd that it knows nothing about them. now, the president is trying to change that. he recently signed a secret order weeks ago we are told to send cia operatives into libya but cia operatives must not wear boots because we all know we have no boots on the ground. today we are learning more about these tennis shoed cia people. wendel is at the white house. what else was the presidents it secret order? >> it ...

Remain on the books to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. we ought to extend it to private sales at gun shows for example. we want the supreme court to say four square those kinds of laws and regulations are consistent with our constitutional tradition. >> always a good debate. we will be watching on tuesday and we will watch and see how it impacts millions of gun owners here in america. thank you both. house speaker nancy pelosi is not calling for congressman rangele to give up his chairmanship left. what is the latest. >> admitd that the ethics violations probably don't pass the smel...

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