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And once, you know, at a certain point, i was on one of my road trips. i'm on another one of my road trips now, by the way. i get a phone call from the internist who says, you know, your mom is in the hospital. she has pneumonia, she is not eating, and if we don't put in a feeding tube, you're going to lose her. and i couldn't get a really straight answer from him about what that meant, how much time i had. i knew she didn't want, specifically did not want a feeding tube, but i was in iowa, my brother was in asia, and i didn't want to make a decision like that without seeing her one more time,...

On lobbying is more meaningful than the money spent on elections because there you got a lot of bang for your buck when you spend money on actual lobbying. you've got people actually telling members of congress how they should write the laws. now, in the 1960s, what happened was, the history is in the 1960s, corporations were having a rough time in washington with the rise of the regulatory state, the rise of the consumer movement, and you had a few lobbyists here in washington, really just a handful of corporate lobbyists, and one of them, brice harlow, startedie advanta evangelizing around t...

Quote, saying, we do not need a revolution in america, we need a reformation. will you explain that comment? >> sure. this is a 200-year-old what the founders of this country call an experiment in self-government, and it's kind of gone off the tracks at this point. so what we don't need is a revolution where they started this country 200 years ago by overthrowing monarchys. >> and through outbursts and all this. >> right, and it was successful all over the world. there's not very many monarchys, and what we need is reform. literally by reform is reforming, like taking things and redoing it. so...

Conversation instantly in about three sentences whether i know you're liberal or conservative or whatever, because there's only a couple things i have to say and you're going to shut me out. >> which is what? give me an example. >> you say -- >> i'm your uncle bob. you're going to shut me down in three words. what do you got? >> a quote, unquote, conservative. you know, there are problems with our economic system. >> and the brain shuts down. or i'm a liberal cousin. >> for your liberal cousin, you say, you know, i think d.c. is a problem. >> and they're done with you. >> right. >> i think a l...