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It's one of those things where now that the sun has gone down, we may not know the fullest exat the present time until the sun comes up in the morning. there's one estimate between 70 and 100. of course, all the numbers right now, i wouldn't say they're very concrete. that's something we'll have to wait on. the estimates have been kind of ranging. but definitely a large amount of damage to a small town where you were talking to the woman earlier, everybody knows everybody. it certainly sounds like everybody in town felt the explosion. they were taublging about it like an earthquake and just ho...

Chris cillizza is back with us now. look at the next 24. let's talk about the fact that lindsay graham says that the president has calleded him and wants to do a big budget deal. the president's now reaching out to republicans. does that tell you that maybe there's going to be some break in the log jam? >> well, i mean, i think we can all be hopeful, andrea, that a break is possible and a deal is possible. i would say if you look at gallup poll over the weekend and a poll and president obama's approval numbers drop a little bit. republicans still getting more of the blame for the sequester tha...

Match. our goal with last night for the president to lay out his plans to restore economic security for the middle class and there's a choice in the election between building the economy for the middle class out, making investments in education, reducing the deficit, and mitt romney's plan, the same policies that led to the economic crisis in the first place. mitt romney had a different strategy. he engaged in an act of performance art last night, something that james lipton would have been proud of, but it was ultimately a substanceless performance. he wouldn't specify where he stood on issue...

Compare the trials. so to be clear, are you opposed to the salem witch trials? >> i am, yes. >> i wanted to get that on record. >> that's one thing you have to apologize for -- you don't have to apologize for, because everybody from that era is dead. >> exat the present time for the ones we didn't get. >> you mean -- if i would have said something i would have had to apologized. >> yeah, exactly. >> i have spiff names on the tip of my -- i have five names on the tip of my tongue. >> you say the names that matter are the families that lost family members on 9/11. i'm assuming that goes for the ...

Middle. you are not going to find two thirds senators willing to throw donald trump out of the office in the unlikely event that the democrats take over the house and impeach him. let it go. let donald trump stick to the getting economy rolling around at 4% g.d.p. and 2020 he will be overwhelmingly reenvironmental protection agency elected. that's how most republicans are playing this right now. think it's a perfectly valid and sensible way of playing it let it play out. >> david: let's take it right inside the white house or formner this case. mark, you and i have talked about this on my radi...