Presidency is a small man sitting at a very long table an awful long way away from the person that he's talking to. and i think actually what putin cares about is his survival. he wants to stay in power, he wants to stay alive. and deep down i think he's terrified for what the biden administration might do and some kind of mighty american response. now, we don't know the shape of that. that hasn't been spelled out, but i think it figures, looms large in putin's mind. >> and it likely goes back to what you said originally to us to the fact a lot of what's going on now is for domestic consumptio...