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With this group as you would be with a state, you know, with germany in the past, don't you, of necessity, have to negotiate a prisoner exchange? >> no. here is where i disagree completely. we have other means to use. and remember, they came to congress about a year ago and we're thinking about doing these negotiations. by the way, they didn't get a very warm reception from either party in the national security committees. they said this is fraught with trouble. well -- so this all of a sudden comes a year later. they didn't notify congress. i think they violated the law in two different place...

Advantage of that. so what you see what's happening in a place like syria where you have a pooling of al qaeda members and affiliates of al qaeda in a way we've never seen before at the level of numbers that we have never seen before, and here's the scary part of this, some thousands of people showing up to participate in that in their mind jihadist effort are westerners, meaning they have western passports. a percentage of them have already gone home, including the united states, by the way, is included in that western number. we are very, very concerned that these folks who have western pape...

Pakistan. now, they haven't gotten the top leader, al zawahri. but they have by all accounts used these drone strikes to kill perhaps hundreds of al qaeda operatives over the last many years. so if the ci aira ends its dron strikes which are a real bone of controversy with the pakistani people, where does that leave things? not a lot of targets in pakistan, but certainly al qaeda on the rise in a number of other areas. in yemen, across north africa, al qaeda affiliates in libya after the strike at the u.s. compound in benghazi. al qaeda affiliates operating right now in syria. the al qaeda thr...