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Advantage of that. so what you see what's happening in a place like syria where you have a pooling of al qaeda members and affiliates of al qaeda in a way we've never seen before at the level of numbers that we have never seen before, and here's the scary part of this, some thousands of people showing up to participate in that in their mind jihadist effort are westerners, meaning they have western passports. a percentage of them have already gone home, including the united states, by the way, is included in that western number. we are very, very concerned that these folks who have western pape...

>> no. there was no explanation as far as how they transitioned from that point. >> that fact doesn't speak to you about the level of the confrontation? >> well, understanding the dynamics of a combat event or a fight, you know, there's a lot of things that spoke to me what he said and the other witnesses said in this case and when you evaluate it and look at it and how did you get from here to here, how did you end up on your back? why weren't you on top? the evolution of the event itself and the imperative part is when the confrontation began and when it intensified. where they transitioned,...