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Itself, today attorneys for christine blasey ford's whose allegation of sexual assault against kavanaugh sparked the entire background probe told nbc news the fbi has not contacted her. dr. ford has not even heard from the fbi. the fbi has completed its interview on mark judge, kavanaugh's friend who ford identified as being in the room when she was allegedly assaulted. an attorney for deborah ramirez who alleged kavanaugh exposed himself to her at a dorm party at yale said she spoke to the fbi for over two hours. at the end of the interview her lawyers provided the fbi with names and known co...

Including our reporting that there are people who feel that they have potentially material information that is important to that investigation who are just not being talked to. we have two people, two women, deborah ramirez and christine blasey ford who no one is saying are not credible and yet the potential validaters, at least in one of those cases with deborah ramirez, the people she claimed were in the room are not being talked to. >> this was handed to me while you were talking. not to pull back the curtain on our stagecraft here, bye, sam stein. an new statement for the attorney for debo...

I want to be interviewed by the fbi and lying to the fbi is a crime. >> she's saying she wants the other person who i named as being there to testify under oath. that should not be lost in all this. >> it's something that's driving me crazy. why won't she testify? what is she afraid of. mark judge has said he does not want to testify under oath. she says she wants to show up before a panel. she just wants it to be done in sort of regular order. it's mark judge is the one who's saying i do not want to testify publicly about what i've said -- about what i've said in this case. >> yeah. >> and i ...

That should not be lost in all this. >> it's something that's driving me crazy. why won't she testify? what is she afraid of. mark judge has said he does not want to testify under oath. she says she wants to show up before a panel. she just wants it to be done in sort of regular order. it's mark judge is the one who's saying i do not want to testify publicly about what i've said -- about what i've said in this case. >> yeah. >> and i think ken, your guest earlier said something earlier today in his conversations with fbi agents in law enforcement, they said typically someone who's making somet...

Going to happen like we think it's going to happen on monday, chuck grassley has scheduled a hearing but now democrats are saying slow down. this rock solid mark it on your calendar? >> i heard you saying the word if and not when this morning and i tend to agree with you, john, because it is more likely to happen than not because of the fact that never mind the lawmakers, both the attorney for dr. ford adds alisyn heard firsthand yesterday and of course brett kavanaugh have both said they want this. they want to testify publicly. what they have not said is when and the order of things and whet...