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court ruling that didn't go his way. top court dealing with affirmative action. that means merit agains and the media will need a fainting couch. >> the worst thing about affirmative action is that it created a clarence thomas. >> clarence thomas has criticized affirmative action and we know that's why he's on the supreme court. >> i think this is sticking dag dag dager in our back. >> we will see that segregation become wider and wider. >> what's next, gay marriage? >> is this leading to no women in colleges soon? who knows. >> no women in college. we can dream. i joke. biden wasn't...

That. >> when you argue that legacy should go away too. if affirmtive action goes away, why not legacy. >> it depends if jesse is going to trinity. >> i knew he was going to say that. >> you should look at class. there's so many poor white americans that denied opportunities just as the way black americans are because they don't have the income. they don't have the access to elite schools in order to spring from a private boarding school into harvard. you have to accept that. the supreme court is not getting involved in it. >> going back, it starts before that. i think that's why. >> it starts...

Leo? >> laura, lawyer, a let me submit the following facts. mississippi family with 7 kids moved to l.a. they had 7 kids. the mother didn't have a high school education, eighth grade, father high school. they had multiple minimum wage job, lived during the watts riots. one of the seven sonls received an -- sons received an opportunity to go to law school through affirmtive action, passed the bar, became a civil rights attorney that, lease owe terrell, the guy on your -- leo terrell. am i an example of adversity, didn't have high school education -- >> laura: well -- >> looks like his mike is o...

I in the louisiana legislature sponsored a bill that forbid racial discrimination and these programs called affirmtive action. >> all right. you were not there you were in moscow doing something else. were you aware he was going speak to your group? >> i heard about that. but i tell you frankly, and i know your next question is was he there. i can't be sure he was there. >> you don't know if he actually showed up. in the newspaper it said he spoke but it wasn't to your group. it was to another group at the same hotel and blah blah. >> i know he was scheduled to speak. i don't know if he spoke....

To justice kennedy and if he is hostile to the law, it's in big trouble. approxima if he is more sympathetic, it will probably carry the day. when you thinking of the election in november, and what is on the table at the time. in will not only be affirmtive action, but you have citizened united too, that will be heard by the justices, maybe on election day in fact and for social conservatives and social liberals there's the question of gay marriage, defense of marriage act and prop eight, notes are cases that are likely to be to be before the justices. >> do you think on citizens united, i kno...