And it's actually just seeing a joy of him, just fighting over and over again, his affliction to become president of the united states through the depression of war. lincoln, i found was -- i mean, lincoln's hard. he's struggling with slavery. he's struggling with how in the world do i sell this when i come from a state, a northern state that voted 70% in a referendum to keep black people out of the state. and it's this struggle, but i bring all of this up to say, as you said, he had that struggle, and then he got elected president of the united states, and suddenly, the clouds part and he rea...