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>> i think that's certainly a possibility. it's extremely suspicious, even going back to the so-called pipe from her radio. the fbi has been extremely suspicious and withholding evidence, video evidence that could help identify this bomber which presumably they want to do. but if you may i'd like to make a general point and after seeing all this you have to ask yourself, does the national security apparatus to anything but conspire against the american people i'm led to conclude that you don't have a democracy that everything in our policy will be fake and can formative until they bring the na...

Bureaucracy perform bad indeed. and getting a new president doesn't fix that but in fact raises the possibility whatever the next disaster is and nobody knows, but the next disaster whatever it is, probably go as badly because somewhere there is preparedness plan in some other part that will turn out to be just useless. >> ben: this is the concern that i have that basically we will have an entire, formative of people with their local or with their media folks who were so focused on donald trump that they won't be asking the kind of questions we need to be asking to avoid this thing from happen...

Formative for now president biden. he recommended the book to other people and learned a lot from it. thank you for coming on the program. you could reflect on what you were hearing just a couple of minutes ago about the arizona and the so-called aud it and th belief in qanon theories, does it add up to something bigger in your view. >> the way that it dies today is at the ballot box. no longer through military coup and attacks by generals. so it is critical to have free and fair elections. and what we're seeing across u.s. states right now is an assault on voting rights. and so i think the bi...

Every baby in this country, and ages of 0 to 5. that is trance formative. >> cumbersome. we as democrats have to start talking about, not just how we tax, but how we grow wealth and wow amongst disadvantaged communities >> booker is one of the candidates that a that has a lot at stake. he's been holding under 3% for the last few months for the next democratic debate as i did take place in los angeles on decembex candidates have qualified for that debate so far. booker has not yet qualified. shannon? >> shannon: ellison barber live in atlanta. thank you. correspondent peter doocy is working the...

It means that seniors are worried that they won't have access to the care they need. >> the conversations are two-way conversations. >> yeah. >> have they been formative in terms of your thinking on some of these issues? >> absolutely. i mean, that really is the heart of it. it's an extraordinary opportunity. it's -- it's let me have a chance to meet people face-to-face. >> so here we are, the iowa state fair. this is one of those events that define the iowa caucuses that help define the course of a presidential race. how important is this? >> you know, for me the big events do a couple of thi...