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Can get insurance. we have to work together the next year to try to get that accomplished. >> so 9 million have signed up in this past year during open enrollment as you understand. >> right. >> that is equal to the previous year, despite a shorter amount of time. on the flip side, 13 million are projected to lose health insurance. how do you put those numbers into context when you're talking about everyday americans, which again obamacare is aimed at helping? >> well, first of all, even though 9 million signed up, those 9 million are also going to find their premiums going up. you mentioned 1...

On this saturday at msnbc world headquarters in new york city. here we are at the half hour. this is what we're watching. new reaction after president trump signs his first major piece of legislation into law. that sweeping tax cut plan that also included a repeal of obamacare's individual mandate. now, the president predicted that without the mandate, obamacare will be, quote, over. joining us now, max baccus, former senator from montana. he also shepherded obamacare through the senate in 2009. senator, as a former democratic senator from the great state of montana shall montana, as you look ...

Corre directly or using it as an sclus to bring in a new deputy attorney general that can manipulate and slow down the investigation. i'm hearing giuliani is under consideration. >> i want to play, noelle, for you, a statement from conservative congressman jim jordan which asking about being a member of house judiciary oversight committees and i'll get your reaction. >> have you had conversations with the white house not about the questions you asked but about the mueller investigation in general? >> well, i talk with the white house about all kinds of things. we've had talks with the white ho...

The deal making over the tax bill. how does it affect the future of obamacare? up next, we'll ask a former senator who played a pivotal role in passing the affordable care act. stick around. my dad's.

The two parties, and i think it's also a reminder that wherever this bill goes, whether it ends up becoming law or passing, whatever happens in the senate, ween for republicans who voted against it, they will all still pay the political cost of something that is unpopular now, that's not going to become any more popular with time given everything we've seen in past similar bills over the past, you know, few decades. when you look at democrats who voted again obamacare, most of those democrats ended up losing or having to retire. so there will very much be a political cost attached. >> that is ...