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That was raling against catholics and said all sorts of things about them, they are essentially a fifth column, they are crypto fascists, that they said if we were compelled to live in this term with romanists, they'll have to be taught their place in society. there were anti-catholic lynch mobs that came up, huge movements. was that bigotry or were they correct back then to look at catholicism as fundamentally alien and threatening to the american way of life? >> it's difficult to judge people from 100 years ago but today's standards. but i go back into the earlier i had middle part of the 19...

Look with the sort of benefit of hindsight, see say clearly that's bigotry, catholics weren't infiltrating, brig orders down from the vatican. how can you be so confident that you are correct about the religion of islam that it is really different in this insidious way and people 50 years from now aren't going to back on what you are saying and put it that that same category? >> first of all, catholics came in and competed with the prot protestant work ethic. eye rishg catholic did their best to stop like they were english rather than irish. they changed their names to blend in -- >> congressm...

I was looking today, a piece in the "l.a. times" about a paper called "the menace" back in 1915 that was raling against catholics and said all sorts of things about them, they are essentially a fifth column, they are crypto fascists, that they said if we were compelled to live in this term with romanists, they'll have to be taught their place in society. there were anti-catholic lynch mobs that came up, huge movements. was that bigotry or were they correct back then to look at catholicism as fundamentally alien and threatening to the american way of life? >> it's difficult to judge people from...

That was raling against catholics and said all sorts of things about them, they are essentially a fifth column, they are crypto fascists, that they said if we were compelled to live in this term with romanists, they'll have to be taught their place in society. there were anti-catholic lynch mobs that came up, huge movements. was that bigotry or were they correct back then to look at catholicism as fundamentally alien and threatening to the american way of life? >> it's difficult to judge people from 100 years ago but today's standards. but i go back into the earlier i had middle part of the 19...

Why are you so confident that they got that wrong, that we now look with the sort of benefit of hindsight, see say clearly that's bigotry, catholics weren't infiltrating, brig orders down from the vatican. how can you be so confident that you are correct about the religion of islam that it is really different in this insidious way and people 50 years from now aren't going to back on what you are saying and put it that that same category? >> first of all, catholics came in and competed with the prot protestant work ethic. eye rishg catholic did their best to stop like they were english rather t...