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congressional caucus joins me live to discuss it all. mixed bag, president biden wins big in the democrat's first presidential primary in south carolina. but new nbc news polling numbers could be a sign of trouble to come. we'll break down the data with dnc chair jaime harrison. plus, my one-on-one conversation with california governor gavin newsom, and the real reason he thinks taylor swift has conspiratorial conservatives of freaking out. and, a surprise lol on snl. >> are you doing okay donald? you might need a mental competency test? >> you know what i did, i took the test, nasce...

That, you know, he really is going to stand by his chief of staff following that, you know, really spectacular, you know, press conference that kelly delivered from the white house podium on thursday. rick: it was very powerful. morgan, appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thanks so much for having me. rick: secretary of state rex tillerson is in saudi arabia pushing to end the gulf crisis. earlier he held a rare joint meeting with the leaders of iraq and saudi arabia in hopes of brokering an alliance aimed at countering iran's growing influence in the region. conor powell has more from...

Won't know, i think, until 2018. but this we do know, this war is going to continue for a long time. eric: and your money would be -- [laughter] >> yeah. i have enough trouble analyzing the present. i think why i'm not making predictions about the future, eric. [laughter] eric: judy, good to see you in the studio. >> thank you. arthel: smart answer. okay, we're going to go to conor powell now in jerusalem with more and secretary of state rex tillerson's mission there in saudi arabia today. conor, what can you tell us about it? >> reporter: yeah, arthel, secretary of state tillerson arrived her...

That, you know, he really is going to stand by his chief of staff following that, you know, really spectacular, you know, press conference that kelly delivered from the white house podium on thursday. rick: it was very powerful. morgan, appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thanks so much for having me. rick: secretary of state rex tillerson is in saudi arabia pushing to end the gulf crisis. earlier he held a rare joint meeting with the leaders of iraq and saudi arabia in hopes of brokering an alliance aimed at countering iran's growing influence in the region. conor powell has more from...