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Nongovernmental. we will manage this situation. the key is that we are -- we have to be able to return these people home or if we do not do that we will see more caravans. steve: mr. padilla. isn't the problem really the law? if you want to change the way it is, congress has got to do it. and republicans in congress say hey, look, we have been trying to get something done for a while. we have been trying to get some democrats involved and they simply will not change the law with us. >> absolutely. we have to give the men and women of the border patrol the tools that they need. those two tools ...

Not have the ability to return these people to their home countries, that has instigated this caravan to an extent. people do not believe that we will return them back. and we have to absolutely return them back if they come this way and illegally enter the united states. >> agent padilla, when you look at the crowds and hear upwards of 10, 12,000, others show 4,000 in this migrant caravan. we don't know exactly. when the pentagon says they are going to send 800 troops down i'm sure it's helpful but is that enough? >> well, yes. we are seeing -- actually we are seeing about 2,000 apprehensions...