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Time. 10 minutes past the hour. martha: the white house's outs going chief economist raising eyebrows, with her going-away message. speaking to the national press club, christina romer called for more spending, and, then also called for lower taxes. not sure how you do that, in other words, another round of stimulus, to boost the struggling economy. and listen to this: >> the only surefire ways for policymakers to substantial increase aggregate demand in the short run is for the governments to spend more and tax less and in my view we should be moving forwards on both fronts. martha: a lot of ...

>> one of those deep divisions, how does the administration plan to deal with them? i mean, they don't recognize israel, they're promising more attacks. >> i'm sorry, say -- >> their plans for dealing with hamas? >> look, why don't i defer questions about what transpired today in the talks until senator mitchell has a opportunity to answer some of those questions at the conclusion of the meetings today, all right? yes, sir. >> robert, a question about christina romer's remark yesterday. i have it in front of me. substantially increase aggregate demand in the short run are for the government to...

Let's listen in. >> that's something the president wants to do. >> they don't recognize israel as promising more attacks. is there a plan for dealing with hamas? >> why don't i defer these questions about what transpired today in the talks until senator mitchell has an opportunity to answer some of the questions at the conclusions of the meetings toda today. >> she said the only sure fire way is for policymakers to substantially increase aggregate demand is for the government to spend more and tax less. that sounds like setting a stage for a second stimulus. >> i'll will broad in my answer.

About paying taxes maybe you say that is a public service. the problem is from the top. i think that kind of cosmetic move doesn't change the fact you need to change in direction here and this is not about rearranging debt chairs. the obama administration, the president has to say... i'm going to let the economy grow. >> the president seems to believe what, i mean he picked these economic advisors. >> i believe in government stimulus. >> it's more than just the president, it's the democratic party. believing in punishing the rich, redistributing income and pushing aggregate demand rather than ...

The loans from the small business administration would be more readily available and the fees on those loans would be kuch cut. he said we need a jobs bill that puts them back again. >> i think the president appropriately is seeking other ways of stimulating the economy other than a big stimulus package. he knows he can't get a stimulus package through this congress with all of the republicans and a lot of blue dog democrats worrying about the long-term deficit, so he's tinkering around the edges. he wants to show he's actively engaged. he must show that. the problem fundamentally is there's n...