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Within our caucus and i do think it is time to pass the torch to a new generation of leaders. i want to be a part of that transition. i want to see that happen. you know, i think that we have too many really great members here that, you know, don't always get the opportunities that they should and, you know, i would like to see that change. >> and, ben, i think you might not -- you would probably agree on this based on you being a candidate there in maryland to be the next governor. your thought on what she's reflecting there? >> you know, i think that right now we're talking about rearranging...

About paying taxes maybe you say that is a public service. the problem is from the top. i think that kind of cosmetic move doesn't change the fact you need to change in direction here and this is not about rearranging debt chairs. the obama administration, the president has to say... i'm going to let the economy grow. >> the president seems to believe what, i mean he picked these economic advisors. >> i believe in government stimulus. >> it's more than just the president, it's the democratic party. believing in punishing the rich, redistributing income and pushing aggregate demand rather than ...

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