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Using this corruption line but the same rational he used to get rid of the aggregate, it seems to me he didn't really get -- they could have easily gotten rid of the individual limit. >> roberts has always been more about evolution than revolution. >> very arbitrary. here is where the issue -- >> i think the aggregate limit is arbitrary here. it's outrageous and roberts talked about it in the case. i'm hoping that the supreme court will follow it all the way down to individual limits because -- >> joe, then look. if you say that with the aggregate limit. you're going to see a whole bunch of fe...

Limits on the aggregate amount of money that any one donor can spend on candidates and political parties in any one election. there used to be a limit of about $123,000 for what you could spend on federal candidates, and the fund-raising committees for the political parties. that aggregate limit is now struck down. so for the very fortunate people in our country who are bumping up against that six figure ceiling in terms of what they wanted to donate in an election cycle. those folks are now free to be way more powerful than you and me. there's still a limit on what you can spend directly on a...

Federal candidates, members of the house, members of the senate, presidential candidates. the issue that's being challenged here is there's another limit people haven't heard of. the total amount that you can give to all candidates put together in any two-year period or all political parties and pacs and other organizations. that's what's being challenged here and i would say after listening to the argument today, there are five votes on the supreme court to strike that down as unfair. however, the big question here was, was the supreme court willing to take the other step that it hasn't been ...

Now the conservative court is gearing up for yet another decision that could change the way we do politics in this country. today the justices heard oral arguments in a case that's being called citizens united on steroids. sean mccutcheon, ceo, is the plaintiff in the case of mccutcheon versus federal exchange committee. now this man claims aggregate contribution limits violate the first amendment by limiting an individual donor's political expression. mccutcheon is now challenging the aggregate limit on donations to federal candidates, political parties and political action committees. presid...

This $123,000 limit or the $48,000 limit in direct contributions to candidates. >> well, and i want to bring in michael here. the other issue here is that this seems like a silly -- it seems like a silly restriction now after citizens united gave the blueprint. citizens united didn't start the idea of super pacs. we always want to make that distinction. but essentially election lawyers used citizens united to come up with this superpab pac blueprint that it does allow mr mr. mccutchen, he can only give a certain amount of money to federal candidates directly, but superpacs allow him to write u...